Protan Forms

The phrase is used among avout to denote ideal, invariant theoric objects or truths—realities understood to be independent of any particular language, diagram, or device. The name reflects the lineage from Protas, and the idea is commonly framed within the Hylaean Theoric World, a realm of such ideal forms.

First appearance and context

In discussion at Saunt Edhar, Protan forms are proposed as a neutral ground for communicating with unknown outsiders: if two cultures can each express the same theoric truth, the shared form might bridge notational and linguistic gaps. This usage places the forms as a practical touchstone for proof and communication inside the Mathic World.

Concept and description

Protan forms are the underlying theoric truths that many different representations can point to. A result proved in different eras and by different methods is taken to be “about” the same form, regardless of symbols. In this framing, minds can apprehend these truths, but their validity does not depend on our brains or on how we happen to write them down.

Use and debate in current discourse

  • Supporters (often speaking from a Protist outlook) appeal to convergence of proofs and to the utility of a shared theoric bedrock when dealing with unknown interlocutors.
  • Skeptical currents tied to Sphenics and to the Procians prefer to treat theorics as something that happens entirely “between the ears,” with no recourse to external realities such as Protan forms.

Relationships and affiliations

  • Lineage: tied to Protas and the doctrine of Protism.
  • Setting: discussed in relation to the Hylaean Theoric World as the domain where such forms are said to reside.
  • Counterpositions: Procian‑ and Sphenic‑leaning speakers are presented as disputing their external reality.

Current status

Active in teaching and debate. The term names a conceptual tool, not a group or place; current usage reflects ongoing attempts to ground communication and proof in notation‑independent truths while acknowledging live disagreement about their ontology.

Summary:

An avout term for ideal theoric truths associated with Protas and the Hylaean Theoric World; used as a notation‑independent basis for communication. The notion is contested by Sphenic/Procian lineages who treat theorics as mental rather than as external realities.

Known as:
the Protan forms